Aircraft Incident/Accident Report
Field Airport

Cumming, Georgia 30130
Sunday, October 28, 1984 17:39 EST

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NTSB Narrative Summary Released at Completion of Accident
DESPITE A FSS FORECAST OF THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS THE PLT DEPARTED IN ORDER TO EVALUATE WX SITUATION FOR HIMSELF. CONDITIONS WERE AS FORECASTED AND THE PLT ELECTED TO RETURN TO THE ARPT FROM WHICH HE HAD DEPARTED. DUE TO THE MOVEMENT OF THE STORM SYSTEM BEHIND THE FLT A RETURN WAS NOT POSSIBLE. THE PLT THEN DECIDED TO PERFORM A PRECAUTIONARY LANDING IN AN UNIMPROVED FIELD WHICH APPEARED SMOOTH WHEN HE HAD OVERFLOWN IT. THE TERRAIN PROVED TO BE ROUGHER THAN ANTICIPATED CAUSING THE ACFT TO NOSE DOWN DURING THE ROLLOUT.
NTSB Probable Cause Narrative
Not Yet Reported
Event Information
Type of EventAccident 
Event Date10/28/1984 
Event Day of the WeekSunday 
Time of Event1739 
Event Time ZoneEastern Standard Time 
Event CityCUMMING  
Event StateGEORGIA 
Event Country-- 
Zipcode of the event site30130  
Event Date Year1984 
Event Date Month10 
MidAir Collision IndicatorNo 
On Ground Collision occurred ?No 
Event Location Latitude  
Event Location Longitude  
Event Location AirportFIELD  
Event Location Nearest Airport ID  
Indicates whether the acc/inc occurred off or on an airportOff Airport/Airstrip 
Distance from airport in statute miles
Degrees magnetic from airport360 
Airport Elevation-- 
Weather Briefing CompletenessPartial - limited by pilot 
Investigator's weather sourceWeather Observation Facility 
Time of the weather observation1547 Eastern Standard Time 
Direction of event from weather observation facility (degrees)225 
Weather Observation Facility IDPDK  
Elevation of weather observation facility1002 
Distance of event from weather observation facility (units?)33 
Time Zone of the weather observationEST 
Lighting ConditionsDay 
Lowest Ceiling Height3000 
Lowest Non-Ceiling Height2000 
Sky/Lowest/Cloud ConditionsScattered 
Sky Condition for Lowest CeilingBroken 
Visibility Runway Visual Range (Feet)
Visibility Runway Visual Value (Statute Miles)
Visibility (Statute Miles) 11 
Air Temperature at event time (in degrees celsius)26 
Dew Point at event time (in degress fahrenheit)21 
Wind Direction (degrees magnetic)180 
Variable Wind IndicatorUnknown 
Wind Speed (knots)
Wind Velocity Indicator Unknown 
Wind Gust IndicatorNot Gusting 
Wind Gust (knots)
Altimeter Setting at event time (in. Hg) 30 
Density Altitude (feet)-- 
Intensity of PrecipitationUnknown 
METAR weather report -- 
Event Highest InjuryNone 
On Ground, Fatal Injuries
On Ground, Minor Injuries
On Ground, Serious Injuries
Injury Total Fatal-- 
Injury Total Minor-- 
Injury Total None
Injury Total Serious-- 
Injury Total All-- 
Investigating AgencyNTSB 
NTSB Docket Number (internal use)2042 
NTSB Notification Source-- 
NTSB Notification Date-- 
NTSB Notification Time
Fiche Number and/or location -used to find docket information25947 
Date of most recent change to recordJan 2 2001 9:15AM 
User who most recently changed recorddbo  
Basic weather conditionsVisual Meteorological Cond 
FAA District Office-- 
Aircraft Involved
Aircraft #1
Aircraft Registration NumberN91365 
NTSB NumberATL85LA021  
Missing Aircraft Indicator
Federal Aviation Reg. PartPart 91: General Aviation 
Type of Flight Plan filedVFR 
Flight plan Was Activated?-- 
DamageSubstantial 
Aircraft FireNone 
Aircraft ExplosionNone 
Aircraft Manufacturer's Full NamePIPER  
Aircraft ModelPA-38-112  
Aircraft Series IdentifierPA-38-112  
Aircraft Serial Number38-82A0017  
Certified Max Gross Weight1670 
Aircraft CategoryAirplane 
Aircraft Registration ClassU.S. Registered/U.S. Soil 
Aircraft is a homebuilt?No 
Flight Crew Seats-- 
Cabin Crew Seats-- 
Passenger Seats-- 
Total number of seats on the aircraft
Number of Engines
Fixed gear or retractable gearFixed 
Aircraft, Type of Last Inspection100 Hour 
Date of Last InspectionOct 12 1984 12:00AM 
Airframe hours since last inspection39 
Airframe Hours1129 
ELT InstalledYes 
ELT ActivatedNo 
ELT Aided Location of Event SiteNo 
ELT Type-- 
Aircraft Owner NameCARPET CAPITAL AVIATION  
Aircraft Owner Street AddressP.O. BOX 831  
Aircraft Owner CityDALTON  
Aircraft Owner StateGA 
Aircraft Owner Country  
Aircraft Owner Zipcode30720  
Operator is an individual?-- 
Operator Name  
Operator Same as Owner?Yes 
Operator Is Doing Business As-- 
Operator Address Same as Owner?Yes 
Operator Street Address  
Operator City  
Operator State  
Operator Country  
Operator Zip code  
Operator Code  
Owner has at least one certificateNone 
Other Operator of large aircraft?No 
Certified for Part 133 or 137 OperationUnknown 
Operator Certificate Number-- 
Indicates whether an air carrier operation was scheduled or not-- 
Indicates Domestic or International Flight-- 
Operator carrying Pax/Cargo/Mail-- 
Type of Flying (Per_Bus / Primary)Personal 
Second Pilot on BoardNo 
Departure Point Same as EventNo 
Departure Airport CodeGVL  
Departure CityGAINSVILLE  
Departure StateGA 
Departure Country  
Departure Time1730 
Departure Time ZoneEST 
Destination Same as Local Flt-- 
Destination Airport CodeDNN  
Destination CityDALTON  
Destination StateGA 
Destination Country  
Specific Phase of FlightLanding 
Report sent to ICAO?-- 
Evacuation occurred-- 
Date of most recent change to recordJan 2 2001 10:36AM 
User who most recently changed recorddbo  
Since inspection or accident-- 
Event Location Runway Number and Location0  
Runway Length-- 
Runway Width-- 
Sight Seeing flightNo 
Air Medical FlightNo 
Medical Flight--