Private Airport
Aircraft Accident/Incident Report

Sandy Creek, New York 13145
Monday, June 29, 1987 9:30 EDT

NTSB Narrative Summary Released at Completion of Accident

THE PILOT OF THE PA-23-250 ATTEMPTED A TAKEOFF ON A 2200 FT LONG PRIVATE AIRSTRIP WITH A GRASS RUNWAY. WITNESSES REPORTED THE AIRCRAFT WAS AIRBORNE FURTHER DOWN THE RUNWAY THAN NORMAL. THE AIRCRAFT DID NOT CLEAR THE TREES ON THE DEPARTURE END OF THE RUNWAY. THE PILOT SAID HE FAILED TO SET THE FLAPS PRIOR TO TAKEOFF AND THAT THE DOOR OPENED DURING THE TAKEOFF ROLL.

NTSB Probable Cause Narrative

Not Yet Reported

Event Information

Type of Event Accident
Event Date 6/29/1987
Event Day of the Week Monday
Time of Event 930
Event Time Zone Eastern Daylight Time
Event City SANDY CREEK
Event State NEW YORK
Event Country --
Zipcode of the event site 13145
Event Date Year 1987
Event Date Month 6
MidAir Collision Indicator No
On Ground Collision occurred ? No
Event Location Latitude
Event Location Longitude
Event Location Airport PRIVATE
Event Location Nearest Airport ID
Indicates whether the acc/inc occurred off or on an airport Off Airport/Airstrip
Distance from airport in statute miles 5
Degrees magnetic from airport 300
Airport Elevation 220
Weather Briefing Completeness Unknown
Investigator's weather source Witness
Time of the weather observation 0
Direction of event from weather observation facility (degrees) 0
Weather Observation Facility ID
Elevation of weather observation facility 0
Distance of event from weather observation facility (units?) 0
Time Zone of the weather observation
Lighting Conditions Day
Lowest Ceiling Height 0
Lowest Non-Ceiling Height 0
Sky/Lowest/Cloud Conditions Unknown
Sky Condition for Lowest Ceiling Unknown
Visibility Runway Visual Range (Feet) 0
Visibility Runway Visual Value (Statute Miles) 0
Visibility (Statute Miles) 0
Air Temperature at event time (in degrees celsius) --
Dew Point at event time (in degress fahrenheit) --
Wind Direction (degrees magnetic) 0
Variable Wind Indicator Unknown
Wind Speed (knots) 0
Wind Velocity Indicator Unknown
Wind Gust Indicator Unknown
Wind Gust (knots) 0
Altimeter Setting at event time (in. Hg) --
Density Altitude (feet) --
Intensity of Precipitation Unknown
METAR weather report --
Event Highest Injury Serious
On Ground, Fatal Injuries 0
On Ground, Minor Injuries 0
On Ground, Serious Injuries 0
Injury Total Fatal --
Injury Total Minor --
Injury Total None --
Injury Total Serious 1
Injury Total All 1
Investigating Agency NTSB
NTSB Docket Number (internal use) 2066
NTSB Notification Source --
NTSB Notification Date Jun 29 1987 12:00AM
NTSB Notification Time 1030
Fiche Number and/or location -used to find docket information 35517
Date of most recent change to record Dec 13 2000 2:30PM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Basic weather conditions Visual Meteorological Cond
FAA District Office --

Aircraft Involved

Aircraft #1

Aircraft Registration Number N4627P
NTSB Number NYC87LA193
Missing Aircraft Indicator N
Federal Aviation Reg. Part Part 91: General Aviation
Type of Flight Plan filed None
Flight plan Was Activated? --
Damage Substantial
Aircraft Fire None
Aircraft Explosion None
Aircraft Manufacturer's Full Name PIPER
Aircraft Model PA-23-250
Aircraft Series Identifier PA-23-250
Aircraft Serial Number 27145
Certified Max Gross Weight 4800
Aircraft Category Airplane
Aircraft Registration Class U.S. Registered/U.S. Soil
Aircraft is a homebuilt? No
Flight Crew Seats --
Cabin Crew Seats --
Passenger Seats --
Total number of seats on the aircraft 6
Number of Engines 2
Fixed gear or retractable gear Retractable
Aircraft, Type of Last Inspection Unknown
Date of Last Inspection --
Airframe hours since last inspection --
Airframe Hours --
ELT Installed No
ELT Activated No
ELT Aided Location of Event Site No
ELT Type --
Aircraft Owner Name GROMAN, STANLEY A
Aircraft Owner Street Address 1303 MIDLAND AVE.
Aircraft Owner City SYRACUSE
Aircraft Owner State NY
Aircraft Owner Country
Aircraft Owner Zipcode 13205
Operator is an individual? --
Operator Name STANLEY GROMAN
Operator Same as Owner? No
Operator Is Doing Business As --
Operator Address Same as Owner? No
Operator Street Address 1303 MIDLAND AVE.
Operator City SYRACUSE
Operator State NY
Operator Country
Operator Zip code 13205
Operator Code
Owner has at least one certificate None
Other Operator of large aircraft? No
Certified for Part 133 or 137 Operation Unknown
Operator Certificate Number --
Indicates whether an air carrier operation was scheduled or not --
Indicates Domestic or International Flight --
Operator carrying Pax/Cargo/Mail --
Type of Flying (Per_Bus / Primary) Personal
Second Pilot on Board No
Departure Point Same as Event Yes
Departure Airport Code
Departure City SANDY CREEK
Departure State NY
Departure Country
Departure Time 930
Departure Time Zone EDT
Destination Same as Local Flt --
Destination Airport Code
Destination City
Destination State
Destination Country
Specific Phase of Flight Takeoff
Report sent to ICAO? --
Evacuation occurred --
Date of most recent change to record Jan 2 2001 10:35AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Since inspection or accident --
Event Location Runway Number and Location 30
Runway Length 2200
Runway Width --
Sight Seeing flight No
Air Medical Flight No
Medical Flight --