Ramona Airport
Aircraft Accident/Incident Report

Ramona, California 92065
Monday, July 28, 1986 10:00 PDT

NTSB Narrative Summary Released at Completion of Accident

THE AIRCRAFT OWNER STATED THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE FLIGHT WAS TO OBTAIN 5 HOURS OF TRANSITION TRAINING IN THE TAIL DRAGGER AND ACCOMPLISH A BFR. AFTER DEPARTURE THE CFI HAD THE PILOT PERFORM AIRWORK MANEUVERS ENROUTE TO THE RAMONA AREA. THE PILOT SAID THAT A LIGHT OIL FILM HAD DEVELOPED ON THE WINDSHIELD DURING THE AIRWORK AND A DECISION WAS MADE TO LAND AT ROMONA TO CLEAN THE WINDSHIELD AND PRACTICE TAKEOFFS AND LANDINGS. INTENDING TO MAKE A THREE POINT LANDING, THE PILOT SAID THAT A 'SLIGHT BOUNCE OCCURRED ON TOUCHDOWN' AND THE CFI TOLD HIM TO ADD A LITTLE POWER. THE PILOT SAID THAT HE COMPLIED AND THEN THE CFI TOLD HIM 'NO,' AND 'YANKED THE THROTTLE OFF.' THE PILOT SAID THAT AFTER THE CFI REDUCED THE POWER THE AIRCRAFT 'WENT WILD AND TURNED SIDEWAYS.' THE PILOT FURTHER SAID THAT THE CFI 'GRABBED THE CONTROLS' AS HE REDUCED THE THROTTLE TO IDLE. ACCORDING TO THE PILOT'S REPORT, THE CFI HAD ONLY 11 HOURS TOTAL IN THE CESSNA 195, WITH ONLY ONE HOUR ACCRUED IN THE PAST 90 DAYS.

NTSB Probable Cause Narrative

Not Yet Reported

Event Information

Type of Event Accident
Event Date 7/28/1986
Event Day of the Week Monday
Time of Event 1000
Event Time Zone Pacific Daylight Time
Event City RAMONA
Event State CALIFORNIA
Event Country --
Zipcode of the event site 92065
Event Date Year 1986
Event Date Month 7
MidAir Collision Indicator No
On Ground Collision occurred ? No
Event Location Latitude
Event Location Longitude
Event Location Airport RAMONA
Event Location Nearest Airport ID L39
Indicates whether the acc/inc occurred off or on an airport On Airport
Distance from airport in statute miles 0
Degrees magnetic from airport 0
Airport Elevation 1393
Weather Briefing Completeness Unknown
Investigator's weather source Pilot
Time of the weather observation 0
Direction of event from weather observation facility (degrees) 0
Weather Observation Facility ID
Elevation of weather observation facility 0
Distance of event from weather observation facility (units?) 0
Time Zone of the weather observation
Lighting Conditions Day
Lowest Ceiling Height 0
Lowest Non-Ceiling Height 0
Sky/Lowest/Cloud Conditions Clear
Sky Condition for Lowest Ceiling None
Visibility Runway Visual Range (Feet) 0
Visibility Runway Visual Value (Statute Miles) 0
Visibility (Statute Miles) 15
Air Temperature at event time (in degrees celsius) 23
Dew Point at event time (in degress fahrenheit) --
Wind Direction (degrees magnetic) 0
Variable Wind Indicator Unknown
Wind Speed (knots) 0
Wind Velocity Indicator Calm
Wind Gust Indicator Not Gusting
Wind Gust (knots) 0
Altimeter Setting at event time (in. Hg) 30
Density Altitude (feet) 2678
Intensity of Precipitation Unknown
METAR weather report --
Event Highest Injury None
On Ground, Fatal Injuries 0
On Ground, Minor Injuries 0
On Ground, Serious Injuries 0
Injury Total Fatal --
Injury Total Minor --
Injury Total None 2
Injury Total Serious --
Injury Total All --
Investigating Agency NTSB
NTSB Docket Number (internal use) 1702
NTSB Notification Source --
NTSB Notification Date Jul 28 1986 12:00AM
NTSB Notification Time 1115
Fiche Number and/or location -used to find docket information 32133
Date of most recent change to record Jan 2 2001 9:14AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Basic weather conditions Visual Meteorological Cond
FAA District Office --

Aircraft Involved

Aircraft #1

Aircraft Registration Number N3899V
NTSB Number LAX86LA306
Missing Aircraft Indicator N
Federal Aviation Reg. Part Part 91: General Aviation
Type of Flight Plan filed None
Flight plan Was Activated? --
Damage Substantial
Aircraft Fire None
Aircraft Explosion None
Aircraft Manufacturer's Full Name CESSNA
Aircraft Model 195
Aircraft Series Identifier 195
Aircraft Serial Number 7377
Certified Max Gross Weight 3150
Aircraft Category Airplane
Aircraft Registration Class U.S. Registered/U.S. Soil
Aircraft is a homebuilt? No
Flight Crew Seats --
Cabin Crew Seats --
Passenger Seats --
Total number of seats on the aircraft 6
Number of Engines 1
Fixed gear or retractable gear Fixed
Aircraft, Type of Last Inspection Annual
Date of Last Inspection Sep 1 1985 12:00AM
Airframe hours since last inspection 81
Airframe Hours 5931
ELT Installed Yes
ELT Activated Yes
ELT Aided Location of Event Site No
ELT Type --
Aircraft Owner Name JAMES L. FOELSCHOW
Aircraft Owner Street Address 170 HALSEY STREET
Aircraft Owner City CHULA VISTA
Aircraft Owner State CA
Aircraft Owner Country
Aircraft Owner Zipcode 92010
Operator is an individual? --
Operator Name
Operator Same as Owner? Yes
Operator Is Doing Business As --
Operator Address Same as Owner? Yes
Operator Street Address
Operator City
Operator State
Operator Country
Operator Zip code
Operator Code
Owner has at least one certificate None
Other Operator of large aircraft? No
Certified for Part 133 or 137 Operation Unknown
Operator Certificate Number --
Indicates whether an air carrier operation was scheduled or not --
Indicates Domestic or International Flight --
Operator carrying Pax/Cargo/Mail --
Type of Flying (Per_Bus / Primary) Instructional
Second Pilot on Board Yes
Departure Point Same as Event No
Departure Airport Code SEE
Departure City GILLESPIE
Departure State CA
Departure Country
Departure Time 905
Departure Time Zone PDT
Destination Same as Local Flt dest & departure same, accident can occur anywhere
Destination Airport Code
Destination City
Destination State
Destination Country
Specific Phase of Flight Landing
Report sent to ICAO? --
Evacuation occurred --
Date of most recent change to record Jan 2 2001 10:30AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Since inspection or accident --
Event Location Runway Number and Location 27
Runway Length 4000
Runway Width 150
Sight Seeing flight No
Air Medical Flight No
Medical Flight --