Oakland-Troy Airport
Aircraft Accident/Incident Report

Troy, Michigan 48099
Sunday, January 13, 1985 11:20 EST

NTSB Narrative Summary Released at Completion of Accident

THE ACFT COLLIDED WITH A SIGN DURING A FORCED LNDG AFTER A LOSS OF POWER THAT OCCURD DURING INITIAL CLIMB AT AN ALT OF 400 FT AGL. THE PLT STATED THAT THE ENG BEGAN TO RUN ROUGH AND WITH THE APPLICATION OF CARB HEAT THE ENG QUIT. A POST ACCIDENT ENG RUN-UP WAS NORMAL.

NTSB Probable Cause Narrative

Not Yet Reported

Event Information

Type of Event Accident
Event Date 1/13/1985
Event Day of the Week Sunday
Time of Event 1120
Event Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
Event City TROY
Event State MICHIGAN
Event Country --
Zipcode of the event site 48099
Event Date Year 1985
Event Date Month 1
MidAir Collision Indicator No
On Ground Collision occurred ? No
Event Location Latitude
Event Location Longitude
Event Location Airport OAKLAND-TROY
Event Location Nearest Airport ID 7D2
Indicates whether the acc/inc occurred off or on an airport On Airport
Distance from airport in statute miles 0
Degrees magnetic from airport 0
Airport Elevation 730
Weather Briefing Completeness Unknown
Investigator's weather source Weather Observation Facility
Time of the weather observation 1152 Eastern Standard Time
Direction of event from weather observation facility (degrees) 200
Weather Observation Facility ID DET
Elevation of weather observation facility 639
Distance of event from weather observation facility (units?) 22
Time Zone of the weather observation EST
Lighting Conditions Day
Lowest Ceiling Height 0
Lowest Non-Ceiling Height 4000
Sky/Lowest/Cloud Conditions Scattered
Sky Condition for Lowest Ceiling None
Visibility Runway Visual Range (Feet) 0
Visibility Runway Visual Value (Statute Miles) 0
Visibility (Statute Miles) 10
Air Temperature at event time (in degrees celsius) -7
Dew Point at event time (in degress fahrenheit) -11
Wind Direction (degrees magnetic) 240
Variable Wind Indicator Unknown
Wind Speed (knots) 13
Wind Velocity Indicator Unknown
Wind Gust Indicator Not Gusting
Wind Gust (knots) 0
Altimeter Setting at event time (in. Hg) 29
Density Altitude (feet) --
Intensity of Precipitation Unknown
METAR weather report --
Event Highest Injury None
On Ground, Fatal Injuries 0
On Ground, Minor Injuries 0
On Ground, Serious Injuries 0
Injury Total Fatal --
Injury Total Minor --
Injury Total None 1
Injury Total Serious --
Injury Total All --
Investigating Agency NTSB
NTSB Docket Number (internal use) 374
NTSB Notification Source --
NTSB Notification Date Jan 14 1985 12:00AM
NTSB Notification Time 748
Fiche Number and/or location -used to find docket information 27551
Date of most recent change to record Jan 2 2001 9:14AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Basic weather conditions Visual Meteorological Cond
FAA District Office --

Aircraft Involved

Aircraft #1

Aircraft Registration Number N8444D
NTSB Number CHI85LA088
Missing Aircraft Indicator N
Federal Aviation Reg. Part Part 91: General Aviation
Type of Flight Plan filed None
Flight plan Was Activated? --
Damage Substantial
Aircraft Fire None
Aircraft Explosion None
Aircraft Manufacturer's Full Name PIPER
Aircraft Model PA-28-161
Aircraft Series Identifier PA-28-161
Aircraft Serial Number 28-8216012
Certified Max Gross Weight 2150
Aircraft Category Airplane
Aircraft Registration Class U.S. Registered/U.S. Soil
Aircraft is a homebuilt? No
Flight Crew Seats --
Cabin Crew Seats --
Passenger Seats --
Total number of seats on the aircraft 4
Number of Engines 1
Fixed gear or retractable gear Fixed
Aircraft, Type of Last Inspection 100 Hour
Date of Last Inspection Mar 20 1984 12:00AM
Airframe hours since last inspection 5
Airframe Hours 910
ELT Installed Yes
ELT Activated Yes
ELT Aided Location of Event Site Yes
ELT Type --
Aircraft Owner Name JAMES D. GOTCH
Aircraft Owner Street Address 4131 COLONIAL DRIVE
Aircraft Owner City ROYAL OAK
Aircraft Owner State MI
Aircraft Owner Country
Aircraft Owner Zipcode 48072
Operator is an individual? --
Operator Name LENTINI AVIATION
Operator Same as Owner? No
Operator Is Doing Business As --
Operator Address Same as Owner? No
Operator Street Address 2672 INDUSTRIAL ROW
Operator City TROY
Operator State MI
Operator Country
Operator Zip code 48084
Operator Code
Owner has at least one certificate None
Other Operator of large aircraft? No
Certified for Part 133 or 137 Operation Unknown
Operator Certificate Number --
Indicates whether an air carrier operation was scheduled or not --
Indicates Domestic or International Flight --
Operator carrying Pax/Cargo/Mail --
Type of Flying (Per_Bus / Primary) Personal
Second Pilot on Board No
Departure Point Same as Event Yes
Departure Airport Code 7D2
Departure City TROY
Departure State MI
Departure Country
Departure Time 1115
Departure Time Zone EST
Destination Same as Local Flt dest & departure same, accident can occur anywhere
Destination Airport Code
Destination City
Destination State
Destination Country
Specific Phase of Flight Landing
Report sent to ICAO? --
Evacuation occurred --
Date of most recent change to record Jan 2 2001 10:36AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Since inspection or accident --
Event Location Runway Number and Location 27
Runway Length 3855
Runway Width 50
Sight Seeing flight No
Air Medical Flight No
Medical Flight --