Skypark Airport
Aircraft Accident/Incident Report

Red Hook, New York 12571
Sunday, March 31, 1985 10:50 EST

NTSB Narrative Summary Released at Completion of Accident

DURING FLT, A PIPER PA-32R-201, N2263Q, & A BAINBRIDGE JODEL F-12, N5700, ENCOUNTERED STRUCTURAL ICING CONDITIONS. THE WINDSHIELDS OF BOTH ACFT BECAME COVERED WITH ICE WHICH RESTRICTED THE FORWARD VISIBILITY OF THE OCCUPANTS IN BOTH ACFT. N5700 LANDED 1ST. THE PLT OF N5700 TURNED HIS ACFT AROUND & WAS TAXIING ON THE RWY WHEN THE PLT OF N2263Q WAS LANDING. WITHIN SECONDS AFTER N2263Q TOUCHED DOWN, THE 2 ACFT COLLIDED. THE PLT OF N2263Q REPORTED THAT HIS PASSENGER, WHO WAS ALSO A PILOT, MADE THE APPROAPRIATE RADIO CALLS IN THE TRAFFIC PATTERN. THE PLT OF N5700 REPORTED THAT HE REMOVED HIS HEADSET AFTER LANDING SO HE COULD GET HIS HEAD AGAINST THE SIDE WINDOW FOR BETTER VISION WHILE TAXIING.

NTSB Probable Cause Narrative

Not Yet Reported

Event Information

Type of Event Accident
Event Date 3/31/1985
Event Day of the Week Sunday
Time of Event 1050
Event Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
Event City RED HOOK
Event State NEW YORK
Event Country --
Zipcode of the event site 12571
Event Date Year 1985
Event Date Month 3
MidAir Collision Indicator --
On Ground Collision occurred ? --
Event Location Latitude
Event Location Longitude
Event Location Airport SKYPARK
Event Location Nearest Airport ID 46N
Indicates whether the acc/inc occurred off or on an airport On Airport
Distance from airport in statute miles 0
Degrees magnetic from airport 0
Airport Elevation 320
Weather Briefing Completeness Unknown
Investigator's weather source Weather Observation Facility
Time of the weather observation 1650 Eastern Standard Time
Direction of event from weather observation facility (degrees) 360
Weather Observation Facility ID POU
Elevation of weather observation facility 166
Distance of event from weather observation facility (units?) 24
Time Zone of the weather observation EST
Lighting Conditions Day
Lowest Ceiling Height 2800
Lowest Non-Ceiling Height 2800
Sky/Lowest/Cloud Conditions Unknown
Sky Condition for Lowest Ceiling Overcast
Visibility Runway Visual Range (Feet) 0
Visibility Runway Visual Value (Statute Miles) 0
Visibility (Statute Miles) 7
Air Temperature at event time (in degrees celsius) 2
Dew Point at event time (in degress fahrenheit) -2
Wind Direction (degrees magnetic) 260
Variable Wind Indicator Unknown
Wind Speed (knots) 11
Wind Velocity Indicator Unknown
Wind Gust Indicator Not Gusting
Wind Gust (knots) 0
Altimeter Setting at event time (in. Hg) 30
Density Altitude (feet) --
Intensity of Precipitation Light
METAR weather report --
Event Highest Injury None
On Ground, Fatal Injuries 0
On Ground, Minor Injuries 0
On Ground, Serious Injuries 0
Injury Total Fatal --
Injury Total Minor --
Injury Total None 4
Injury Total Serious --
Injury Total All --
Investigating Agency NTSB
NTSB Docket Number (internal use) 1018
NTSB Notification Source --
NTSB Notification Date Apr 1 1985 12:00AM
NTSB Notification Time 800
Fiche Number and/or location -used to find docket information 28331
Date of most recent change to record Apr 9 2001 10:27AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Basic weather conditions Visual Meteorological Cond
FAA District Office --

Aircraft Involved

Aircraft #1

Aircraft #2

Aircraft Registration Number N2263Q N5700
NTSB Number NYC85LA094A NYC85LA094B
Missing Aircraft Indicator N N
Federal Aviation Reg. Part Part 91: General Aviation Part 91: General Aviation
Type of Flight Plan filed None None
Flight plan Was Activated? -- --
Damage Substantial Substantial
Aircraft Fire None None
Aircraft Explosion None None
Aircraft Manufacturer's Full Name PIPER BAINBRIDGE
Aircraft Model PA-28R-201 JODEL F-12
Aircraft Series Identifier PA-28R-201 JODEL F-12
Aircraft Serial Number 28R7737030 F7077
Certified Max Gross Weight 2750 2600
Aircraft Category Airplane Airplane
Aircraft Registration Class U.S. Registered/U.S. Soil U.S. Registered/U.S. Soil
Aircraft is a homebuilt? No Yes
Flight Crew Seats -- --
Cabin Crew Seats -- --
Passenger Seats -- --
Total number of seats on the aircraft 4 2
Number of Engines 1 1
Fixed gear or retractable gear Retractable Fixed
Aircraft, Type of Last Inspection Annual 100 Hour
Date of Last Inspection Sep 4 1984 12:00AM Jul 1 1984 12:00AM
Airframe hours since last inspection 28 10
Airframe Hours 2459 423
ELT Installed Yes No
ELT Activated Yes Unknown
ELT Aided Location of Event Site No Unknown
ELT Type -- --
Aircraft Owner Name GEORGE DROBOT, JR. GEORFFREY N. FLETCHER
Aircraft Owner Street Address BOX 296 RT. #1, BOX 356A
Aircraft Owner City RED HOOK WEST HURLEY
Aircraft Owner State NY NY
Aircraft Owner Country
Aircraft Owner Zipcode 12571 12491
Operator is an individual? -- --
Operator Name RED HOOK AIR SERVICE
Operator Same as Owner? No Yes
Operator Is Doing Business As -- --
Operator Address Same as Owner? No Yes
Operator Street Address 64 E. 86TH STREET
Operator City NEW YORK
Operator State NY
Operator Country
Operator Zip code 10028
Operator Code
Owner has at least one certificate None None
Other Operator of large aircraft? No No
Certified for Part 133 or 137 Operation Unknown Unknown
Operator Certificate Number -- --
Indicates whether an air carrier operation was scheduled or not -- --
Indicates Domestic or International Flight -- --
Operator carrying Pax/Cargo/Mail -- --
Type of Flying (Per_Bus / Primary) Personal Personal
Second Pilot on Board No No
Departure Point Same as Event Yes Yes
Departure Airport Code
Departure City
Departure State
Departure Country
Departure Time 1010 1000
Departure Time Zone EDT EST
Destination Same as Local Flt dest & departure same, accident can occur anywhere dest & departure same, accident can occur anywhere
Destination Airport Code
Destination City
Destination State
Destination Country
Specific Phase of Flight Landing Taxi
Report sent to ICAO? -- --
Evacuation occurred -- --
Date of most recent change to record Jan 2 2001 10:36AM Jan 2 2001 10:36AM
User who most recently changed record dbo dbo
Since inspection or accident -- --
Event Location Runway Number and Location 1 1
Runway Length 2666 2666
Runway Width 30 30
Sight Seeing flight No No
Air Medical Flight No No
Medical Flight -- --