Suffolk County Airport
Aircraft Accident/Incident Report

Westhampton Bch, New York 11978
Tuesady, May 21, 1985 10:45 EDT

NTSB Narrative Summary Released at Completion of Accident

THE ACFT LANDED IN A FENCE AFTER HITTING A PWR LINE AND TREES DURING A FORCED LNDG AFTER TAKEOFF. THE ENG LOST POWER AFTER A 10 MIN DELAY FOR ATC CLEARANCE DUE TO A MILITARY EXERCISE. THE PLT SAID HE BELIEVED THAT CARB ICE FORMED DURING THE GROUND WAIT FOR ATC CLEARANCE. THE PLT TRIED CARB HEAT AFTER THE PWR LOSS(A GRADUAL DROP IN ENG RPM). THE PLTSAID THAT DURING THE HOLDING HE WAS IDLING THE ENG AT 1100 RPM. THE TEMP WAS 60 DEGREES F, DEW POINT 57 DEGREES.

NTSB Probable Cause Narrative

Not Yet Reported

Event Information

Type of Event Accident
Event Date 5/21/1985
Event Day of the Week Tuesday
Time of Event 1045
Event Time Zone Eastern Daylight Time
Event City WESTHAMPTON BCH
Event State NEW YORK
Event Country --
Zipcode of the event site 11978
Event Date Year 1985
Event Date Month 5
MidAir Collision Indicator No
On Ground Collision occurred ? No
Event Location Latitude
Event Location Longitude
Event Location Airport SUFFOLK COUNTY
Event Location Nearest Airport ID FOK
Indicates whether the acc/inc occurred off or on an airport On Airport
Distance from airport in statute miles 0
Degrees magnetic from airport 0
Airport Elevation 67
Weather Briefing Completeness Partial - limited by pilot
Investigator's weather source Weather Observation Facility
Time of the weather observation 1100 Eastern Daylight Time
Direction of event from weather observation facility (degrees) 0
Weather Observation Facility ID FOK
Elevation of weather observation facility 0
Distance of event from weather observation facility (units?) 0
Time Zone of the weather observation EDT
Lighting Conditions Day
Lowest Ceiling Height 4000
Lowest Non-Ceiling Height 500
Sky/Lowest/Cloud Conditions Scattered
Sky Condition for Lowest Ceiling Broken
Visibility Runway Visual Range (Feet) 0
Visibility Runway Visual Value (Statute Miles) 0
Visibility (Statute Miles) 3
Air Temperature at event time (in degrees celsius) 18
Dew Point at event time (in degress fahrenheit) 16
Wind Direction (degrees magnetic) 230
Variable Wind Indicator Unknown
Wind Speed (knots) 10
Wind Velocity Indicator Unknown
Wind Gust Indicator Unknown
Wind Gust (knots) 20
Altimeter Setting at event time (in. Hg) 29
Density Altitude (feet) 0
Intensity of Precipitation Unknown
METAR weather report --
Event Highest Injury Minor
On Ground, Fatal Injuries 0
On Ground, Minor Injuries 0
On Ground, Serious Injuries 0
Injury Total Fatal --
Injury Total Minor 1
Injury Total None --
Injury Total Serious --
Injury Total All 1
Investigating Agency FAA
NTSB Docket Number (internal use) 339
NTSB Notification Source --
NTSB Notification Date May 21 1985 12:00AM
NTSB Notification Time 1450
Fiche Number and/or location -used to find docket information 27516
Date of most recent change to record Jan 2 2001 9:15AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Basic weather conditions Visual Meteorological Cond
FAA District Office --

Aircraft Involved

Aircraft #1

Aircraft Registration Number N26005
NTSB Number NYC85FHJ02
Missing Aircraft Indicator N
Federal Aviation Reg. Part Part 91: General Aviation
Type of Flight Plan filed VFR
Flight plan Was Activated? --
Damage Substantial
Aircraft Fire None
Aircraft Explosion None
Aircraft Manufacturer's Full Name PIPER
Aircraft Model PA-38-112
Aircraft Series Identifier PA-38-112
Aircraft Serial Number 3881A0092
Certified Max Gross Weight 1670
Aircraft Category Airplane
Aircraft Registration Class U.S. Registered/U.S. Soil
Aircraft is a homebuilt? No
Flight Crew Seats --
Cabin Crew Seats --
Passenger Seats --
Total number of seats on the aircraft 2
Number of Engines 1
Fixed gear or retractable gear Fixed
Aircraft, Type of Last Inspection 100 Hour
Date of Last Inspection May 4 1985 12:00AM
Airframe hours since last inspection 59
Airframe Hours --
ELT Installed Yes
ELT Activated Yes
ELT Aided Location of Event Site No
ELT Type --
Aircraft Owner Name PERRYS FLYING SERVICE INC.
Aircraft Owner Street Address SUFFOLK COUNTY ARPT BLDG 128
Aircraft Owner City WESTHAMPTON BEA
Aircraft Owner State NY
Aircraft Owner Country
Aircraft Owner Zipcode 11978
Operator is an individual? --
Operator Name
Operator Same as Owner? Yes
Operator Is Doing Business As --
Operator Address Same as Owner? Yes
Operator Street Address
Operator City
Operator State
Operator Country
Operator Zip code
Operator Code
Owner has at least one certificate Yes - certificate holder
Other Operator of large aircraft? No
Certified for Part 133 or 137 Operation Unknown
Operator Certificate Number --
Indicates whether an air carrier operation was scheduled or not --
Indicates Domestic or International Flight --
Operator carrying Pax/Cargo/Mail --
Type of Flying (Per_Bus / Primary) Business
Second Pilot on Board No
Departure Point Same as Event Yes
Departure Airport Code FOK
Departure City
Departure State
Departure Country
Departure Time 1043
Departure Time Zone EDT
Destination Same as Local Flt dest & departure same, accident can occur anywhere
Destination Airport Code ISP
Destination City ISLIP
Destination State NY
Destination Country
Specific Phase of Flight Landing
Report sent to ICAO? --
Evacuation occurred --
Date of most recent change to record Jan 2 2001 10:36AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Since inspection or accident --
Event Location Runway Number and Location 24
Runway Length 9000
Runway Width 200
Sight Seeing flight No
Air Medical Flight No
Medical Flight --