Griswold Airport
Aircraft Accident/Incident Report

Madison, Connecticut 06443
Sunday, September 15, 1985 17:45 EDT

NTSB Narrative Summary Released at Completion of Accident

WHILE ON THE DOWNWIND LEG FOR RWY 24, THE INSTRUCTOR REDUCED POWER TO IDLE FOR ENGINE FAILURE SIMULATION. THE STUDENT MADE A SHORT APPROACH AND UPON REACHING 700 FT AGL THE STUDENT HEADED DIRECTLY TOWARD THE APPROACH END OF THE RWY AT A 30 DEG ANGLE FROM RWY HEADING. ON SHORT FINAL THE ACFT WAS TURNED FOR RWY ALIGNMENT AND POWER WAS ADDED TO AVOID REEDS THAT OBSTRUCT THE APPROACH PATH OF THE RWY. THE L WING AND MAIN GEAR STRUCK THE WEEDS. THE ACFT CAME TO REST ON GRASS AREA SHORT OF RWWY. THE REEDS ARE 8 TO 10 FT HIGH AND 100 FT FROM THE RWY THRESHOLD.

NTSB Probable Cause Narrative

Not Yet Reported

Event Information

Type of Event Accident
Event Date 9/15/1985
Event Day of the Week Sunday
Time of Event 1745
Event Time Zone Eastern Daylight Time
Event City MADISON
Event State CONNECTICUT
Event Country --
Zipcode of the event site 06443
Event Date Year 1985
Event Date Month 9
MidAir Collision Indicator No
On Ground Collision occurred ? No
Event Location Latitude
Event Location Longitude
Event Location Airport GRISWOLD
Event Location Nearest Airport ID NO4
Indicates whether the acc/inc occurred off or on an airport On Airport
Distance from airport in statute miles 0
Degrees magnetic from airport 0
Airport Elevation 15
Weather Briefing Completeness Not pertinent
Investigator's weather source Pilot
Time of the weather observation 0
Direction of event from weather observation facility (degrees) 0
Weather Observation Facility ID
Elevation of weather observation facility 0
Distance of event from weather observation facility (units?) 0
Time Zone of the weather observation
Lighting Conditions Day
Lowest Ceiling Height 0
Lowest Non-Ceiling Height 25000
Sky/Lowest/Cloud Conditions Scattered
Sky Condition for Lowest Ceiling None
Visibility Runway Visual Range (Feet) 0
Visibility Runway Visual Value (Statute Miles) 0
Visibility (Statute Miles) 20
Air Temperature at event time (in degrees celsius) 22
Dew Point at event time (in degress fahrenheit) 6
Wind Direction (degrees magnetic) 0
Variable Wind Indicator Unknown
Wind Speed (knots) 9
Wind Velocity Indicator Unknown
Wind Gust Indicator Not Gusting
Wind Gust (knots) 0
Altimeter Setting at event time (in. Hg) 30
Density Altitude (feet) --
Intensity of Precipitation Unknown
METAR weather report --
Event Highest Injury None
On Ground, Fatal Injuries 0
On Ground, Minor Injuries 0
On Ground, Serious Injuries 0
Injury Total Fatal --
Injury Total Minor --
Injury Total None 2
Injury Total Serious --
Injury Total All --
Investigating Agency NTSB
NTSB Docket Number (internal use) 1977
NTSB Notification Source --
NTSB Notification Date Sep 15 1985 12:00AM
NTSB Notification Time 1815
Fiche Number and/or location -used to find docket information 29374
Date of most recent change to record Jan 2 2001 9:15AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Basic weather conditions Visual Meteorological Cond
FAA District Office --

Aircraft Involved

Aircraft #1

Aircraft Registration Number N2387P
NTSB Number NYC85LA235
Missing Aircraft Indicator N
Federal Aviation Reg. Part Part 91: General Aviation
Type of Flight Plan filed None
Flight plan Was Activated? --
Damage Substantial
Aircraft Fire None
Aircraft Explosion None
Aircraft Manufacturer's Full Name PIPER
Aircraft Model PA-38-112
Aircraft Series Identifier PA-38-112
Aircraft Serial Number 38-79AO972
Certified Max Gross Weight 1670
Aircraft Category Airplane
Aircraft Registration Class U.S. Registered/U.S. Soil
Aircraft is a homebuilt? No
Flight Crew Seats --
Cabin Crew Seats --
Passenger Seats --
Total number of seats on the aircraft 2
Number of Engines 1
Fixed gear or retractable gear Fixed
Aircraft, Type of Last Inspection 100 Hour
Date of Last Inspection May 31 1985 12:00AM
Airframe hours since last inspection 99
Airframe Hours 1899
ELT Installed Yes
ELT Activated No
ELT Aided Location of Event Site Unknown
ELT Type --
Aircraft Owner Name SHORELINE AVIATION, INC.
Aircraft Owner Street Address 1362 BOSTON POST RD.
Aircraft Owner City MADISON
Aircraft Owner State CT
Aircraft Owner Country
Aircraft Owner Zipcode 06443
Operator is an individual? --
Operator Name
Operator Same as Owner? Yes
Operator Is Doing Business As --
Operator Address Same as Owner? Yes
Operator Street Address
Operator City
Operator State
Operator Country
Operator Zip code
Operator Code
Owner has at least one certificate Yes - certificate holder
Other Operator of large aircraft? No
Certified for Part 133 or 137 Operation Unknown
Operator Certificate Number --
Indicates whether an air carrier operation was scheduled or not --
Indicates Domestic or International Flight --
Operator carrying Pax/Cargo/Mail --
Type of Flying (Per_Bus / Primary) Instructional
Second Pilot on Board Yes
Departure Point Same as Event No
Departure Airport Code HVN
Departure City NEW HAVEN
Departure State CT
Departure Country
Departure Time 1725
Departure Time Zone EDT
Destination Same as Local Flt crash at destination city
Destination Airport Code
Destination City
Destination State
Destination Country
Specific Phase of Flight Approach
Report sent to ICAO? --
Evacuation occurred --
Date of most recent change to record Jan 2 2001 10:30AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Since inspection or accident --
Event Location Runway Number and Location 24
Runway Length 1800
Runway Width 50
Sight Seeing flight No
Air Medical Flight No
Medical Flight --