Aircraft Accident/Incident Report

Lebec, California 93243
Sunday, November 17, 1985 19:55 PST

NTSB Narrative Summary Released at Completion of Accident

AFTER RECEIVING A PREFLIGHT WX BRIEFING THAT FORECAST STRONG HEADWINDS, OVER MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN, SEVERE TURBULENCE AND PIREPS OF SEVERE TURBULENCE ON THE PROPOSED FLT ROUTE. THE INSTRUCTOR PLT AND HIS STUDENT INSTRUMENT PLT TOOK OFF FOR A NIGHT IFR TRAINING FLT. THE ACFT ENTERED A MOUNTAIN WAVE AND DESCENDED INTO A MOUNTAIN. ALTHOUGH ANOTHER ACFT IN THE AREA SUGGESTED THE DESCENDING ACFT MAKE A 180 TURN THERE WAS NO EFFORT ON THE PART OF THE PLT TO MANEUVER THE ACFT OUT OF THE WAVE OR THE ARTCC CONTROLLER TO DIRECT THE ACFT TO REVERSE COURSE.

NTSB Probable Cause Narrative

Not Yet Reported

Event Information

Type of Event Accident
Event Date 11/17/1985
Event Day of the Week Sunday
Time of Event 1955
Event Time Zone Pacific Standard Time
Event City LEBEC
Event State CALIFORNIA
Event Country --
Zipcode of the event site 93243
Event Date Year 1985
Event Date Month 11
MidAir Collision Indicator No
On Ground Collision occurred ? No
Event Location Latitude
Event Location Longitude
Event Location Airport
Event Location Nearest Airport ID
Indicates whether the acc/inc occurred off or on an airport Off Airport/Airstrip
Distance from airport in statute miles --
Degrees magnetic from airport --
Airport Elevation 0
Weather Briefing Completeness Full
Investigator's weather source Weather Observation Facility
Time of the weather observation 0
Direction of event from weather observation facility (degrees) 0
Weather Observation Facility ID BFL
Elevation of weather observation facility 0
Distance of event from weather observation facility (units?) 0
Time Zone of the weather observation
Lighting Conditions Night/Bright
Lowest Ceiling Height 4500
Lowest Non-Ceiling Height 0
Sky/Lowest/Cloud Conditions Unknown
Sky Condition for Lowest Ceiling Overcast
Visibility Runway Visual Range (Feet) 0
Visibility Runway Visual Value (Statute Miles) 0
Visibility (Statute Miles) 6
Air Temperature at event time (in degrees celsius) 7
Dew Point at event time (in degress fahrenheit) 6
Wind Direction (degrees magnetic) 50
Variable Wind Indicator Unknown
Wind Speed (knots) 7
Wind Velocity Indicator Unknown
Wind Gust Indicator Not Gusting
Wind Gust (knots) 0
Altimeter Setting at event time (in. Hg) 30
Density Altitude (feet) 5200
Intensity of Precipitation Unknown
METAR weather report --
Event Highest Injury Fatal
On Ground, Fatal Injuries 0
On Ground, Minor Injuries 0
On Ground, Serious Injuries 0
Injury Total Fatal 2
Injury Total Minor --
Injury Total None --
Injury Total Serious --
Injury Total All 2
Investigating Agency NTSB
NTSB Docket Number (internal use) 2723
NTSB Notification Source --
NTSB Notification Date Nov 17 1985 12:00AM
NTSB Notification Time 2030
Fiche Number and/or location -used to find docket information 30431
Date of most recent change to record Jan 2 2001 9:15AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Basic weather conditions Instrument Meteorological Cond
FAA District Office --

Aircraft Involved

Aircraft #1

Aircraft Registration Number N43602
NTSB Number LAX86FA042
Missing Aircraft Indicator N
Federal Aviation Reg. Part Part 91: General Aviation
Type of Flight Plan filed IFR
Flight plan Was Activated? --
Damage Destroyed
Aircraft Fire Ground
Aircraft Explosion None
Aircraft Manufacturer's Full Name PIPER
Aircraft Model PA 28-151
Aircraft Series Identifier PA 28-151
Aircraft Serial Number 287415535
Certified Max Gross Weight 2325
Aircraft Category Airplane
Aircraft Registration Class U.S. Registered/U.S. Soil
Aircraft is a homebuilt? No
Flight Crew Seats --
Cabin Crew Seats --
Passenger Seats --
Total number of seats on the aircraft 4
Number of Engines 1
Fixed gear or retractable gear Fixed
Aircraft, Type of Last Inspection Annual
Date of Last Inspection May 1 1985 12:00AM
Airframe hours since last inspection 60
Airframe Hours 4640
ELT Installed Yes
ELT Activated Yes
ELT Aided Location of Event Site No
ELT Type --
Aircraft Owner Name AERO ASSOC. OF CAL. TECH, INC.
Aircraft Owner Street Address 1201 E. CALIFORNIA
Aircraft Owner City PASADENA
Aircraft Owner State CA
Aircraft Owner Country
Aircraft Owner Zipcode 91109
Operator is an individual? --
Operator Name
Operator Same as Owner? Yes
Operator Is Doing Business As --
Operator Address Same as Owner? Yes
Operator Street Address
Operator City
Operator State
Operator Country
Operator Zip code
Operator Code
Owner has at least one certificate None
Other Operator of large aircraft? No
Certified for Part 133 or 137 Operation Unknown
Operator Certificate Number --
Indicates whether an air carrier operation was scheduled or not --
Indicates Domestic or International Flight --
Operator carrying Pax/Cargo/Mail --
Type of Flying (Per_Bus / Primary) Instructional
Second Pilot on Board Yes
Departure Point Same as Event No
Departure Airport Code EMT
Departure City EL MONTE
Departure State CA
Departure Country
Departure Time 1830
Departure Time Zone PST
Destination Same as Local Flt --
Destination Airport Code BFL
Destination City BAKERSFIELD
Destination State CA
Destination Country
Specific Phase of Flight Descent
Report sent to ICAO? --
Evacuation occurred --
Date of most recent change to record Jan 2 2001 10:30AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Since inspection or accident --
Event Location Runway Number and Location 0
Runway Length 0
Runway Width 0
Sight Seeing flight No
Air Medical Flight No
Medical Flight --