Chandler Muni Airport
Aircraft Accident/Incident Report

Chandler, Arizona 85249
Wednesday, November 6, 1985 16:00 MST

NTSB Narrative Summary Released at Completion of Accident

DURING A DUAL INSTRUCTIONAL FLIGHT THE CFI STATED THAT HE WAS LOOKING FOR TRAFFIC WHILE MONITORING HIS STUDENT'S PERFORMANCE. THE CFI FAILED TO OBSERVE THAT AN ACFT WAS AHEAD OF HIM IN THE TRAFFIC PATTERN. THAT ACFT WAS AT A LOWER ALTITUDE & WAS ON SHORT FINAL APPROACH FOR THE RWY ON WHICH THE CFI INTENDED TO LAND. THE CFI'S ACFT FLARED FOR LANDING ON TOP OF & COLLIDED WITH THE ACFT WHICH HAD JUST TOUCHED DOWN.

NTSB Probable Cause Narrative

Not Yet Reported

Event Information

Type of Event Accident
Event Date 11/6/1985
Event Day of the Week Wednesday
Time of Event 1600
Event Time Zone Mountain Standard Time
Event City CHANDLER
Event State ARIZONA
Event Country --
Zipcode of the event site 85249
Event Date Year 1985
Event Date Month 11
MidAir Collision Indicator Yes
On Ground Collision occurred ? No
Event Location Latitude
Event Location Longitude
Event Location Airport CHANDLER MUNI
Event Location Nearest Airport ID P10
Indicates whether the acc/inc occurred off or on an airport On Airport
Distance from airport in statute miles 0
Degrees magnetic from airport 0
Airport Elevation 1235
Weather Briefing Completeness Unknown
Investigator's weather source Pilot
Time of the weather observation 0
Direction of event from weather observation facility (degrees) 0
Weather Observation Facility ID
Elevation of weather observation facility 0
Distance of event from weather observation facility (units?) 0
Time Zone of the weather observation
Lighting Conditions Day
Lowest Ceiling Height 0
Lowest Non-Ceiling Height 0
Sky/Lowest/Cloud Conditions Clear
Sky Condition for Lowest Ceiling None
Visibility Runway Visual Range (Feet) 0
Visibility Runway Visual Value (Statute Miles) 0
Visibility (Statute Miles) 30
Air Temperature at event time (in degrees celsius) 27
Dew Point at event time (in degress fahrenheit) --
Wind Direction (degrees magnetic) 0
Variable Wind Indicator Unknown
Wind Speed (knots) 0
Wind Velocity Indicator Calm
Wind Gust Indicator Not Gusting
Wind Gust (knots) 0
Altimeter Setting at event time (in. Hg) --
Density Altitude (feet) --
Intensity of Precipitation Unknown
METAR weather report --
Event Highest Injury None
On Ground, Fatal Injuries 0
On Ground, Minor Injuries 0
On Ground, Serious Injuries 0
Injury Total Fatal --
Injury Total Minor --
Injury Total None 3
Injury Total Serious --
Injury Total All --
Investigating Agency NTSB
NTSB Docket Number (internal use) 2699
NTSB Notification Source --
NTSB Notification Date Nov 6 1985 12:00AM
NTSB Notification Time 1750
Fiche Number and/or location -used to find docket information 30409
Date of most recent change to record Jan 2 2001 9:15AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Basic weather conditions Visual Meteorological Cond
FAA District Office --

Aircraft Involved

Aircraft #1

Aircraft #2

Aircraft Registration Number N42XX N2315V
NTSB Number LAX86LA034A LAX86LA034B
Missing Aircraft Indicator N N
Federal Aviation Reg. Part Part 91: General Aviation Part 91: General Aviation
Type of Flight Plan filed None None
Flight plan Was Activated? -- --
Damage Substantial Minor
Aircraft Fire None None
Aircraft Explosion None None
Aircraft Manufacturer's Full Name AEROTEK PIPER
Aircraft Model PITTS S-2A PA-38-112
Aircraft Series Identifier PITTS S-2A PA-38-112
Aircraft Serial Number 2166 38-82A0085
Certified Max Gross Weight 1575 1670
Aircraft Category Airplane Airplane
Aircraft Registration Class U.S. Registered/U.S. Soil U.S. Registered/U.S. Soil
Aircraft is a homebuilt? No No
Flight Crew Seats -- --
Cabin Crew Seats -- --
Passenger Seats -- --
Total number of seats on the aircraft 2 2
Number of Engines 1 1
Fixed gear or retractable gear Fixed Fixed
Aircraft, Type of Last Inspection Annual AAIP
Date of Last Inspection Mar 20 1985 12:00AM Sep 26 1985 12:00AM
Airframe hours since last inspection 62 78
Airframe Hours 629 1797
ELT Installed Yes Yes
ELT Activated No No
ELT Aided Location of Event Site No No
ELT Type -- --
Aircraft Owner Name PITTS LEASING CO. CHANDLER AIR SERVICE, INC.
Aircraft Owner Street Address P.O. BOX 1016 1675 E. RYAN RD.
Aircraft Owner City CHANDLER CHANDLER
Aircraft Owner State AZ AZ
Aircraft Owner Country
Aircraft Owner Zipcode 85244 85249
Operator is an individual? -- --
Operator Name CHANDLER AIR SERVICE, INC.
Operator Same as Owner? No Yes
Operator Is Doing Business As -- --
Operator Address Same as Owner? No Yes
Operator Street Address 1675 EAST RYAN ROAD
Operator City CHANDLER
Operator State AZ
Operator Country
Operator Zip code 85249
Operator Code
Owner has at least one certificate None None
Other Operator of large aircraft? No No
Certified for Part 133 or 137 Operation Unknown Unknown
Operator Certificate Number -- --
Indicates whether an air carrier operation was scheduled or not -- --
Indicates Domestic or International Flight -- --
Operator carrying Pax/Cargo/Mail -- --
Type of Flying (Per_Bus / Primary) Instructional Instructional
Second Pilot on Board Yes No
Departure Point Same as Event Yes Yes
Departure Airport Code P10 P10
Departure City CHANDLER CHANDLER
Departure State AZ AZ
Departure Country
Departure Time 1530 1515
Departure Time Zone MST MST
Destination Same as Local Flt crash at destination city crash at destination city
Destination Airport Code P10
Destination City CHANDLER
Destination State AZ
Destination Country
Specific Phase of Flight Landing Landing
Report sent to ICAO? -- --
Evacuation occurred -- --
Date of most recent change to record Jan 2 2001 10:30AM Jan 2 2001 10:36AM
User who most recently changed record dbo dbo
Since inspection or accident -- --
Event Location Runway Number and Location 22 22
Runway Length 4400 4400
Runway Width 75 75
Sight Seeing flight No No
Air Medical Flight No No
Medical Flight -- --