San Pedro Helistop Airport
Aircraft Accident/Incident Report

San Pedro, California 90733
Saturday, November 30, 1985 16:38 PST

NTSB Narrative Summary Released at Completion of Accident

TWO BELL 206'S (N3913Z OPRD BY HELITRANS, N5759Y OPRD BY ISLAND EXPRESS) DEPTD AVALON 2 MIN APART ON FLTS TO SAN PEDRO. ARR ROUTE AT DESTN WAS OVR A RVR WITH ANGLING FNL APCH ARND A FLOATING RESTAURANT (FR). HELIPORT (HP) WAS IN CONGESTED AREA NR BRIDGE, BLDG, BOAT DOCK. EACH PLT MADE REQD RDO CALL ON UNICOM FREQ, 2.5 MI OUT; CHNGD TO 123.30 MHZ BTN RVR MOUTH & HP TO CHK ON FLYING AT ANOTHER OPR'S LOCATION; CHNGD BACK TO UNICOM; EXCEPT PLT OF N5759Y ALSO CHKD IN ON HIS COFREQ. AS 1ST FLT (N3913Z) ARR, BOAT WAS DOCKING; PLT MADE GO-ARND, BUT DIDN'T MAKE RDO CALL. AS N3913Z WAS ON 2ND APCH, N5759Y CONVERGED FM DRCTN OF SETTING SUN IN L TURN ARND FR & ACFT COLLIDED. NEITHER PLT CALLED FNL APCH. N5759Y CRASHED IN WTR; N3913Z HIT EDGE OF HP, ROLLED OVR. PAX IN N5759Y HAD PRBLM EGRESSING; INADEQ BRIEFING BFR FLT. HP OWNER (LA PORTAUTHORITY) DIDN'T PROVIDE RSTRCTNS OF OPRG PERMITS TO OPRS. OPRS DIDN'T ABIDE BY HP OWNER'S 5 MIN SEPN RULE. MIN OVRSGHTBY FAA & CA DEPT OF AERONAUTICS. PLT OF N3913Z LACKED 10 HRS OF REQD TRNG. THE HP WAS CERTIFIED FOR SEAPLANE OPN.

NTSB Probable Cause Narrative

Not Yet Reported

Event Information

Type of Event Accident
Event Date 11/30/1985
Event Day of the Week Saturday
Time of Event 1638
Event Time Zone Pacific Standard Time
Event City SAN PEDRO
Event State CALIFORNIA
Event Country --
Zipcode of the event site 90733
Event Date Year 1985
Event Date Month 11
MidAir Collision Indicator Yes
On Ground Collision occurred ? No
Event Location Latitude --
Event Location Longitude --
Event Location Airport SAN PEDRO HELISTOP
Event Location Nearest Airport ID LCA3
Indicates whether the acc/inc occurred off or on an airport Off Airport/Airstrip
Distance from airport in statute miles --
Degrees magnetic from airport --
Airport Elevation --
Weather Briefing Completeness Unknown
Investigator's weather source Weather Observation Facility
Time of the weather observation 1548 Pacific Standard Time
Direction of event from weather observation facility (degrees) 40
Weather Observation Facility ID LGB
Elevation of weather observation facility 57
Distance of event from weather observation facility (units?) 7
Time Zone of the weather observation PST
Lighting Conditions Day
Lowest Ceiling Height 0
Lowest Non-Ceiling Height 0
Sky/Lowest/Cloud Conditions Clear
Sky Condition for Lowest Ceiling None
Visibility Runway Visual Range (Feet) 0
Visibility Runway Visual Value (Statute Miles) 0
Visibility (Statute Miles) 30
Air Temperature at event time (in degrees celsius) 14
Dew Point at event time (in degress fahrenheit) 8
Wind Direction (degrees magnetic) 200
Variable Wind Indicator Unknown
Wind Speed (knots) 7
Wind Velocity Indicator Unknown
Wind Gust Indicator Not Gusting
Wind Gust (knots) 0
Altimeter Setting at event time (in. Hg) 30
Density Altitude (feet) 100
Intensity of Precipitation Unknown
METAR weather report --
Event Highest Injury Fatal
On Ground, Fatal Injuries 0
On Ground, Minor Injuries 0
On Ground, Serious Injuries 0
Injury Total Fatal 1
Injury Total Minor 7
Injury Total None --
Injury Total Serious 4
Injury Total All 12
Investigating Agency NTSB
NTSB Docket Number (internal use) 2475
NTSB Notification Source --
NTSB Notification Date Nov 30 1985 12:00AM
NTSB Notification Time 1710
Fiche Number and/or location -used to find docket information 29320
Date of most recent change to record Feb 26 2001 8:35AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Basic weather conditions Visual Meteorological Cond
FAA District Office --

Aircraft Involved

Aircraft #1

Aircraft #2

Aircraft Registration Number N3913Z N5759Y
NTSB Number LAX86MA050A LAX86MA050B
Missing Aircraft Indicator N N
Federal Aviation Reg. Part Part 135: Air Taxi & Commuter Part 135: Air Taxi & Commuter
Type of Flight Plan filed Company VFR Company VFR
Flight plan Was Activated? -- --
Damage Destroyed Destroyed
Aircraft Fire None None
Aircraft Explosion None None
Aircraft Manufacturer's Full Name BELL BELL
Aircraft Model 206L-1 206L-1
Aircraft Series Identifier 206L-1 206L-1
Aircraft Serial Number 45650 45563
Certified Max Gross Weight 4150 4150
Aircraft Category Helicopter Helicopter
Aircraft Registration Class U.S. Registered/U.S. Soil U.S. Registered/U.S. Soil
Aircraft is a homebuilt? No No
Flight Crew Seats -- --
Cabin Crew Seats -- --
Passenger Seats -- --
Total number of seats on the aircraft 7 7
Number of Engines 1 1
Fixed gear or retractable gear Fixed Fixed
Aircraft, Type of Last Inspection 100 Hour Annual
Date of Last Inspection Nov 15 1985 12:00AM Oct 30 1985 12:00AM
Airframe hours since last inspection 41 79
Airframe Hours 2741 2479
ELT Installed Yes Yes
ELT Activated Yes No
ELT Aided Location of Event Site No Unknown
ELT Type -- --
Aircraft Owner Name PODESTA-MOLLER ASSOCIATES R. S. AVIATION, INC.
Aircraft Owner Street Address 250 W. 5TH STREET SUITE 120 6855 TUJUNGA AVENUE
Aircraft Owner City SAN PEDRO NORTH HOLLYWOOD
Aircraft Owner State CA CA
Aircraft Owner Country
Aircraft Owner Zipcode 90731 91605
Operator is an individual? -- --
Operator Name HELITRANS, INC. ISLAND EXPRESS, INC.
Operator Same as Owner? No No
Operator Is Doing Business As -- --
Operator Address Same as Owner? No No
Operator Street Address 2800 TEAL CLUB RD. 900 QUEENSWAY DRIVE
Operator City OXNARD LONG BEACH
Operator State CA CA
Operator Country
Operator Zip code 93030 90801
Operator Code
Owner has at least one certificate Yes - certificate holder Yes - certificate holder
Other Operator of large aircraft? No No
Certified for Part 133 or 137 Operation Unknown Unknown
Operator Certificate Number -- --
Indicates whether an air carrier operation was scheduled or not Non-scheduled Non-scheduled
Indicates Domestic or International Flight Domestic Domestic
Operator carrying Pax/Cargo/Mail Passenger/Cargo Passenger/Cargo
Type of Flying (Per_Bus / Primary) Unknown Unknown
Second Pilot on Board No No
Departure Point Same as Event No No
Departure Airport Code L11 L11
Departure City AVALON AVALON
Departure State CA CA
Departure Country
Departure Time 1620 1622
Departure Time Zone PST PST
Destination Same as Local Flt crash at destination city crash at destination city
Destination Airport Code 6CA3
Destination City
Destination State
Destination Country
Specific Phase of Flight Approach Approach
Report sent to ICAO? -- --
Evacuation occurred -- --
Date of most recent change to record Feb 26 2001 8:07AM Feb 26 2001 8:07AM
User who most recently changed record dbo dbo
Since inspection or accident -- --
Event Location Runway Number and Location 0 0
Runway Length 140 140
Runway Width 90 90
Sight Seeing flight No No
Air Medical Flight No No
Medical Flight -- --