Ramapo Valley Airport
Aircraft Accident/Incident Report

Clarkstown, New York 10977
Saturday, April 7, 1984 16:20 EST

NTSB Narrative Summary Released at Completion of Accident

STUDENT PLT STATED HE INFORMED THE CFI DURING TAKEOFF THAT THE ACFT WOULD NOT CONTINUE TO CLIMB. THE CFI THEN TOOK CONTROL OF THE ACFT. WITNESSES STATED THE ENG SEEMED TO STOP AND THE ACFT ENTERED A GLIDE, BANKING TO THE LEFT FROM APRX 150 FT AGL. THE LEFT WING CONTACTED THE GROUND AND THE ACFT STOPPED PARTIALLY SUBMERGED IN A CREEK. INSPECTION AND TESTING OF THE ACFT AND ENG FAILED TO DISCLOSE ANY MECHANICAL FAILURE/MALFUNCTION.

NTSB Probable Cause Narrative

Not Yet Reported

Event Information

Type of Event Accident
Event Date 4/7/1984
Event Day of the Week Saturday
Time of Event 1620
Event Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
Event City CLARKSTOWN
Event State NEW YORK
Event Country --
Zipcode of the event site 10977
Event Date Year 1984
Event Date Month 4
MidAir Collision Indicator No
On Ground Collision occurred ? No
Event Location Latitude
Event Location Longitude
Event Location Airport RAMAPO VALLEY
Event Location Nearest Airport ID N24
Indicates whether the acc/inc occurred off or on an airport Off Airport/Airstrip
Distance from airport in statute miles 4
Degrees magnetic from airport 210
Airport Elevation 420
Weather Briefing Completeness Full
Investigator's weather source Weather Observation Facility
Time of the weather observation 2100 E
Direction of event from weather observation facility (degrees) 0
Weather Observation Facility ID TEB
Elevation of weather observation facility 100
Distance of event from weather observation facility (units?) 25
Time Zone of the weather observation E
Lighting Conditions Day
Lowest Ceiling Height 3000
Lowest Non-Ceiling Height 3000
Sky/Lowest/Cloud Conditions Unknown
Sky Condition for Lowest Ceiling Broken
Visibility Runway Visual Range (Feet) 0
Visibility Runway Visual Value (Statute Miles) 0
Visibility (Statute Miles) 20
Air Temperature at event time (in degrees celsius) 9
Dew Point at event time (in degress fahrenheit) -18
Wind Direction (degrees magnetic) 340
Variable Wind Indicator Unknown
Wind Speed (knots) 10
Wind Velocity Indicator Unknown
Wind Gust Indicator Not Gusting
Wind Gust (knots) 0
Altimeter Setting at event time (in. Hg) 29
Density Altitude (feet) 0
Intensity of Precipitation Unknown
METAR weather report --
Event Highest Injury Fatal
On Ground, Fatal Injuries 0
On Ground, Minor Injuries 0
On Ground, Serious Injuries 0
Injury Total Fatal 1
Injury Total Minor --
Injury Total None --
Injury Total Serious 1
Injury Total All 2
Investigating Agency NTSB
NTSB Docket Number (internal use) 3226
NTSB Notification Source --
NTSB Notification Date --
NTSB Notification Time 0
Fiche Number and/or location -used to find docket information 27392
Date of most recent change to record Jan 2 2001 9:15AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Basic weather conditions Visual Meteorological Cond
FAA District Office --

Aircraft Involved

Aircraft #1

Aircraft Registration Number N1516M
NTSB Number NYC84FHM05
Missing Aircraft Indicator N
Federal Aviation Reg. Part Part 91: General Aviation
Type of Flight Plan filed None
Flight plan Was Activated? --
Damage Destroyed
Aircraft Fire None
Aircraft Explosion None
Aircraft Manufacturer's Full Name CESSNA
Aircraft Model 182P
Aircraft Series Identifier 182P
Aircraft Serial Number 18264360
Certified Max Gross Weight 2950
Aircraft Category Airplane
Aircraft Registration Class U.S. Registered/U.S. Soil
Aircraft is a homebuilt? No
Flight Crew Seats --
Cabin Crew Seats --
Passenger Seats --
Total number of seats on the aircraft 4
Number of Engines 1
Fixed gear or retractable gear Fixed
Aircraft, Type of Last Inspection Annual
Date of Last Inspection Apr 22 1983 12:00AM
Airframe hours since last inspection 45
Airframe Hours 490
ELT Installed Yes
ELT Activated Unknown
ELT Aided Location of Event Site No
ELT Type --
Aircraft Owner Name HOMER LYDECKER
Aircraft Owner Street Address 110 SOUTH HIGHLAND AVE.
Aircraft Owner City SO. NYACK
Aircraft Owner State NY
Aircraft Owner Country
Aircraft Owner Zipcode 10960
Operator is an individual? --
Operator Name GARRETT MILLER
Operator Same as Owner? No
Operator Is Doing Business As --
Operator Address Same as Owner? No
Operator Street Address 186 VAN HOUTON FIELD
Operator City WEST NYACK
Operator State NY
Operator Country
Operator Zip code 10994
Operator Code
Owner has at least one certificate None
Other Operator of large aircraft? No
Certified for Part 133 or 137 Operation Unknown
Operator Certificate Number --
Indicates whether an air carrier operation was scheduled or not --
Indicates Domestic or International Flight --
Operator carrying Pax/Cargo/Mail --
Type of Flying (Per_Bus / Primary) Instructional
Second Pilot on Board Yes
Departure Point Same as Event Yes
Departure Airport Code
Departure City
Departure State
Departure Country
Departure Time 1618
Departure Time Zone EST
Destination Same as Local Flt dest & departure same, accident can occur anywhere
Destination Airport Code
Destination City
Destination State
Destination Country
Specific Phase of Flight Descent
Report sent to ICAO? --
Evacuation occurred --
Date of most recent change to record Jan 2 2001 10:30AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Since inspection or accident --
Event Location Runway Number and Location 26
Runway Length 2185
Runway Width 50
Sight Seeing flight No
Air Medical Flight No
Medical Flight --