Schreiner Airport
Aircraft Accident/Incident Report

Kerrville, Texas 78028
Sunday, September 9, 1984 12:00 CDT

NTSB Narrative Summary Released at Completion of Accident

PLT STATED THAT AFTER FAILING TO GET A 'GEAR DOWN' LIGHT, HE CYCLED GEAR WITH NO SUCCESS IN OBTAINING A LIGHT AND RECEIVED NO RESPONSE TO CALL ON UNICOM FREQUENCY FOR VISUAL CHECK FROM GROUND. PLT STATED HE ELECTED TO LAND ANYWAY AND THAT NOSE GEAR COLLAPSED ON NORMAL TOUCHDOWN. WITNESS (LINEMAN) STATED NO CALL WAS RECEIVED ON UNICOM FREQUENCY. HE OBSERVED THE ACFT IN THE PATTERN AND THE GEAR APPEARED TO BE DOWN. WITNESS FURTHER STATED HE OBSERVED THE ACFT LAND ON THE MAIN GEAR AND WHEN THE NOSE GEAR WAS LOWERED TO RUNWAY SURFACE IT COLLAPSED AS THE NOSE REBOUNDED AND THE ACFT BOUNCED SEVERAL FEET INTO THE AIR. THE ACFT TOUCHED DOWN AND BOUNCED TWICE MORE BEFORE REMAINING ON GROUND. INSPECTION REVEALED SUBSTANTIAL OVERLOAD DAMAGE TO NOSE GEAR STRUCTURAL ATTACHMENT AND ACFT TAIL SKID DRIVEN UP INTO LOWER FUSELAGE.

NTSB Probable Cause Narrative

Not Yet Reported

Event Information

Type of Event Accident
Event Date 9/9/1984
Event Day of the Week Sunday
Time of Event 1200
Event Time Zone Central Daylight Time
Event City KERRVILLE
Event State TEXAS
Event Country --
Zipcode of the event site 78028
Event Date Year 1984
Event Date Month 9
MidAir Collision Indicator No
On Ground Collision occurred ? No
Event Location Latitude
Event Location Longitude
Event Location Airport SCHREINER
Event Location Nearest Airport ID ERV
Indicates whether the acc/inc occurred off or on an airport On Airport
Distance from airport in statute miles 0
Degrees magnetic from airport 0
Airport Elevation 1616
Weather Briefing Completeness Not pertinent
Investigator's weather source Pilot
Time of the weather observation 0
Direction of event from weather observation facility (degrees) 0
Weather Observation Facility ID
Elevation of weather observation facility 0
Distance of event from weather observation facility (units?) 0
Time Zone of the weather observation
Lighting Conditions Day
Lowest Ceiling Height 0
Lowest Non-Ceiling Height 0
Sky/Lowest/Cloud Conditions Clear
Sky Condition for Lowest Ceiling None
Visibility Runway Visual Range (Feet) 0
Visibility Runway Visual Value (Statute Miles) 0
Visibility (Statute Miles) 7
Air Temperature at event time (in degrees celsius) --
Dew Point at event time (in degress fahrenheit) --
Wind Direction (degrees magnetic) 180
Variable Wind Indicator Unknown
Wind Speed (knots) 6
Wind Velocity Indicator Unknown
Wind Gust Indicator Unknown
Wind Gust (knots) 10
Altimeter Setting at event time (in. Hg) --
Density Altitude (feet) --
Intensity of Precipitation Unknown
METAR weather report --
Event Highest Injury None
On Ground, Fatal Injuries 0
On Ground, Minor Injuries 0
On Ground, Serious Injuries 0
Injury Total Fatal --
Injury Total Minor --
Injury Total None 4
Injury Total Serious --
Injury Total All --
Investigating Agency NTSB
NTSB Docket Number (internal use) 2633
NTSB Notification Source --
NTSB Notification Date --
NTSB Notification Time 0
Fiche Number and/or location -used to find docket information 26579
Date of most recent change to record Jan 2 2001 9:15AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Basic weather conditions Visual Meteorological Cond
FAA District Office --

Aircraft Involved

Aircraft #1

Aircraft Registration Number N9128P
NTSB Number FTW84LA410
Missing Aircraft Indicator N
Federal Aviation Reg. Part Part 91: General Aviation
Type of Flight Plan filed None
Flight plan Was Activated? --
Damage Substantial
Aircraft Fire None
Aircraft Explosion None
Aircraft Manufacturer's Full Name PIPER
Aircraft Model PA-24
Aircraft Series Identifier PA-24
Aircraft Serial Number 24-4608
Certified Max Gross Weight 2900
Aircraft Category Airplane
Aircraft Registration Class U.S. Registered/U.S. Soil
Aircraft is a homebuilt? No
Flight Crew Seats --
Cabin Crew Seats --
Passenger Seats --
Total number of seats on the aircraft 4
Number of Engines 1
Fixed gear or retractable gear Retractable
Aircraft, Type of Last Inspection Annual
Date of Last Inspection Jul 30 1984 12:00AM
Airframe hours since last inspection --
Airframe Hours 2200
ELT Installed Yes
ELT Activated No
ELT Aided Location of Event Site No
ELT Type --
Aircraft Owner Name JOHN PETRY
Aircraft Owner Street Address BOX 218
Aircraft Owner City CARRIZO SPRGS
Aircraft Owner State TX
Aircraft Owner Country
Aircraft Owner Zipcode
Operator is an individual? --
Operator Name
Operator Same as Owner? Yes
Operator Is Doing Business As --
Operator Address Same as Owner? Yes
Operator Street Address
Operator City
Operator State
Operator Country
Operator Zip code
Operator Code
Owner has at least one certificate None
Other Operator of large aircraft? No
Certified for Part 133 or 137 Operation Unknown
Operator Certificate Number --
Indicates whether an air carrier operation was scheduled or not --
Indicates Domestic or International Flight --
Operator carrying Pax/Cargo/Mail --
Type of Flying (Per_Bus / Primary) Business
Second Pilot on Board No
Departure Point Same as Event No
Departure Airport Code
Departure City CARRIZO SPRINGS
Departure State TX
Departure Country
Departure Time 0
Departure Time Zone
Destination Same as Local Flt crash at destination city
Destination Airport Code
Destination City
Destination State
Destination Country
Specific Phase of Flight Landing
Report sent to ICAO? --
Evacuation occurred --
Date of most recent change to record Jan 2 2001 10:36AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Since inspection or accident --
Event Location Runway Number and Location 12
Runway Length 4400
Runway Width 100
Sight Seeing flight No
Air Medical Flight No
Medical Flight --