Aircraft Accident/Incident Report

Oceanside, California 92052
Thursday, November 24, 1983 20:05 PST

NTSB Narrative Summary Released at Completion of Accident

BEFORE TAKEOFF, THE PLT RECEIVED A WX BRIEFING & WAS ADVISED TO EXPECT IFR CONDITIONS IN THE VICINITY OF OCEANSIDE, CA & THAT MODERATE TURBULENCE EXISTED BELOW 20,000 FT. AFTER TAKEOFF, HE OBTAINED AN IFR CLEARANCE TO CLIMB & CRUISE AT 6000 FT. AT ABOUT 2005 PST, ATC LOST RADIO & RADAR CONTACT WITH THE ACFT. LATER, THE ACFT WAS FOUND WHERE IT HAD CRASHED IN MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN, ABOUT 1/5 MI FROM WHERE THE LAST TRANSPONDER REPLY WAS NOTED. AN EXAM OF THE WRECKAGE REVEALED BOTH OUTER WING PANELS, THE RIGHT STABILATOR & THE VERTICAL STABILIZER HAD SEPARATED & WERE FOUND 130 TO 612 FT FROM THE MAIN WRECKAGE. ALSO, THE REMAINDER OF THE EMPENNAGE HAD SEPARATE & WAS 31 FT FROM THE MAIN WRECKAGE & THE BOTTOM SECTION OF THE FUSELAGE & ROTATING BEACON WERE 823 FT AWAY. THERE WAS EVIDENCE THE MAIN WRECKAGE HAD IMPACTEDIN A NEAR VERTICAL DESCENT. ALL SEPARATED PARTS HAD EVIDENCE OF OVERLOAD FAILURE. PERSONNEL NEAR THE ACCIDENT SITE REPORTED "SHAFTS OF HEAVY RAIN." AT APRX 2018, A CESSNA 210 PLT RPTD HEAVY RAIN ABOUT 1 MI NORTH OF THE ACCIDENT SITE.

NTSB Probable Cause Narrative

Not Yet Reported

Event Information

Type of Event Accident
Event Date 11/24/1983
Event Day of the Week Thursday
Time of Event 2005
Event Time Zone Pacific Standard Time
Event City OCEANSIDE
Event State CALIFORNIA
Event Country --
Zipcode of the event site 92052
Event Date Year 1983
Event Date Month 11
MidAir Collision Indicator No
On Ground Collision occurred ? No
Event Location Latitude --
Event Location Longitude --
Event Location Airport
Event Location Nearest Airport ID
Indicates whether the acc/inc occurred off or on an airport Off Airport/Airstrip
Distance from airport in statute miles --
Degrees magnetic from airport --
Airport Elevation --
Weather Briefing Completeness Full
Investigator's weather source Weather Observation Facility
Time of the weather observation 1945 Pacific Standard Time
Direction of event from weather observation facility (degrees) 135
Weather Observation Facility ID CRQ
Elevation of weather observation facility 328
Distance of event from weather observation facility (units?) 16
Time Zone of the weather observation PST
Lighting Conditions Night/Dark
Lowest Ceiling Height 800
Lowest Non-Ceiling Height 800
Sky/Lowest/Cloud Conditions Unknown
Sky Condition for Lowest Ceiling Overcast
Visibility Runway Visual Range (Feet) 0
Visibility Runway Visual Value (Statute Miles) 0
Visibility (Statute Miles) 1
Air Temperature at event time (in degrees celsius) 60
Dew Point at event time (in degress fahrenheit) --
Wind Direction (degrees magnetic) 130
Variable Wind Indicator Unknown
Wind Speed (knots) 8
Wind Velocity Indicator Unknown
Wind Gust Indicator Unknown
Wind Gust (knots) 0
Altimeter Setting at event time (in. Hg) 30
Density Altitude (feet) --
Intensity of Precipitation Heavy
METAR weather report --
Event Highest Injury Fatal
On Ground, Fatal Injuries 0
On Ground, Minor Injuries 0
On Ground, Serious Injuries 0
Injury Total Fatal 2
Injury Total Minor --
Injury Total None --
Injury Total Serious --
Injury Total All 2
Investigating Agency NTSB
NTSB Docket Number (internal use) 2881
NTSB Notification Source --
NTSB Notification Date --
NTSB Notification Time 0
Fiche Number and/or location -used to find docket information 23199
Date of most recent change to record Aug 10 2001 4:45AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Basic weather conditions Instrument Meteorological Cond
FAA District Office --

Aircraft Involved

Aircraft #1

Aircraft Registration Number N6295T
NTSB Number LAX84FA071
Missing Aircraft Indicator N
Federal Aviation Reg. Part Part 91: General Aviation
Type of Flight Plan filed Unknown
Flight plan Was Activated? --
Damage Destroyed
Aircraft Fire None
Aircraft Explosion None
Aircraft Manufacturer's Full Name PIPER
Aircraft Model PA-24-250
Aircraft Series Identifier PA-24-250
Aircraft Serial Number 24-1404
Certified Max Gross Weight 2800
Aircraft Category Airplane
Aircraft Registration Class U.S. Registered/U.S. Soil
Aircraft is a homebuilt? No
Flight Crew Seats --
Cabin Crew Seats --
Passenger Seats --
Total number of seats on the aircraft 4
Number of Engines 1
Fixed gear or retractable gear Retractable
Aircraft, Type of Last Inspection Annual
Date of Last Inspection Nov 2 1983 12:00AM
Airframe hours since last inspection 1
Airframe Hours 2958
ELT Installed Yes
ELT Activated No
ELT Aided Location of Event Site Unknown
ELT Type --
Aircraft Owner Name JERRY J. HELMUTH
Aircraft Owner Street Address 743 IVES CREST
Aircraft Owner City COVINA
Aircraft Owner State CA
Aircraft Owner Country
Aircraft Owner Zipcode 91724
Operator is an individual? --
Operator Name AVIATION UNLIMITED
Operator Same as Owner? No
Operator Is Doing Business As --
Operator Address Same as Owner? No
Operator Street Address PO BOX 4951
Operator City EL MONTE
Operator State CA
Operator Country
Operator Zip code 91734
Operator Code
Owner has at least one certificate None
Other Operator of large aircraft? No
Certified for Part 133 or 137 Operation Unknown
Operator Certificate Number --
Indicates whether an air carrier operation was scheduled or not --
Indicates Domestic or International Flight --
Operator carrying Pax/Cargo/Mail --
Type of Flying (Per_Bus / Primary) Personal
Second Pilot on Board No
Departure Point Same as Event No
Departure Airport Code SEE
Departure City SAN DIEGO
Departure State CA
Departure Country
Departure Time 0
Departure Time Zone
Destination Same as Local Flt --
Destination Airport Code EMT
Destination City EL MONTE
Destination State CA
Destination Country
Specific Phase of Flight Cruise
Report sent to ICAO? --
Evacuation occurred --
Date of most recent change to record Aug 10 2001 4:00AM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Since inspection or accident --
Event Location Runway Number and Location 0
Runway Length --
Runway Width --
Sight Seeing flight No
Air Medical Flight No
Medical Flight --