St. Charles Airport
Aircraft Accident/Incident Report

St. Charles, Missouri 63301
Monday, October 25, 1982 5:25 CDT

NTSB Narrative Summary Released at Completion of Accident

THE ACFT CRASHED ON THE NORTH BOUNDARY OF THE ARPT WITHIN MINUTES AFTER HAVING BEEN SEEN DEPARTING RWY 27. DENSE GROUND FOG PREVAILED AT THE CRASH SITE. APPROXIMATELY 1-1/2 HOURS AFTER THE ACCIDENT EXAMINATION DISCLOSD VERY HEAVY FROST ON ALL ACFT PARKED ADJACENT TO THE SPOT WHERE THE ACFT HAD BEEN SEEN PARKED FOR TWO DAYS. ACCORDING TO THE PERSON WHO DROVE THE PLT TO THE ARPT THERE WAS FROST ON THE ACFT WHEN THEY ARRIVED AT THE ARPT. HE FURTHER STATED THAT HE DID NOT SEE THE PLT REMOVE FROST FROM ANY PART OF THE ACFT EXCEPT THE WINDSHIELD. THE CARBURETOR HEAT VALVE WAS FOUND JAMMED IN THE FULL HOT POSITION. ACCORDING TO ENGINEERING DATA OBTAINED FROM PIPER THE HEAT RISE OF THE CARB HEAT SYSTEM IS 129 DEG F AT 75% POWER & 28 DEG F AMBIENT AIR TEMP. THE POWER LOSS DUE TO CARB HEAT IS 1% FOR EACH 10 DEG HEAT RISE.

NTSB Probable Cause Narrative

Not Yet Reported

Event Information

Type of Event Accident
Event Date 10/25/1982
Event Day of the Week Monday
Time of Event 525
Event Time Zone Central Daylight Time
Event City ST. CHARLES
Event State MISSOURI
Event Country --
Zipcode of the event site 63301
Event Date Year 1982
Event Date Month 10
MidAir Collision Indicator No
On Ground Collision occurred ? No
Event Location Latitude --
Event Location Longitude --
Event Location Airport ST. CHARLES
Event Location Nearest Airport ID 35Q
Indicates whether the acc/inc occurred off or on an airport On Airport
Distance from airport in statute miles 0
Degrees magnetic from airport 0
Airport Elevation 0
Weather Briefing Completeness Unknown
Investigator's weather source Unknown
Time of the weather observation 0
Direction of event from weather observation facility (degrees) 0
Weather Observation Facility ID
Elevation of weather observation facility 0
Distance of event from weather observation facility (units?) 0
Time Zone of the weather observation
Lighting Conditions Night/Dark
Lowest Ceiling Height 0
Lowest Non-Ceiling Height 0
Sky/Lowest/Cloud Conditions Partial Obscuration
Sky Condition for Lowest Ceiling Unknown
Visibility Runway Visual Range (Feet) 0
Visibility Runway Visual Value (Statute Miles) 0
Visibility (Statute Miles) 0
Air Temperature at event time (in degrees celsius) --
Dew Point at event time (in degress fahrenheit) 0
Wind Direction (degrees magnetic) 270
Variable Wind Indicator Unknown
Wind Speed (knots) 5
Wind Velocity Indicator Unknown
Wind Gust Indicator Unknown
Wind Gust (knots) 0
Altimeter Setting at event time (in. Hg) 30
Density Altitude (feet) 0
Intensity of Precipitation Unknown
METAR weather report --
Event Highest Injury Fatal
On Ground, Fatal Injuries 0
On Ground, Minor Injuries 0
On Ground, Serious Injuries 0
Injury Total Fatal 4
Injury Total Minor --
Injury Total None --
Injury Total Serious --
Injury Total All 4
Investigating Agency FAA
NTSB Docket Number (internal use) 2398
NTSB Notification Source --
NTSB Notification Date --
NTSB Notification Time 0
Fiche Number and/or location -used to find docket information
Date of most recent change to record Oct 31 2002 4:04PM
User who most recently changed record NTSB\ZUZL
Basic weather conditions Instrument Meteorological Cond
FAA District Office --

Aircraft Involved

Aircraft #1

Aircraft Registration Number N8184Y
NTSB Number MKC83FCA01
Missing Aircraft Indicator N
Federal Aviation Reg. Part Part 91: General Aviation
Type of Flight Plan filed None
Flight plan Was Activated? --
Damage Substantial
Aircraft Fire None
Aircraft Explosion None
Aircraft Manufacturer's Full Name PIPER
Aircraft Model PA-28-161
Aircraft Series Identifier PA-28-161
Aircraft Serial Number 28-8016218
Certified Max Gross Weight 2325
Aircraft Category Airplane
Aircraft Registration Class Unknown
Aircraft is a homebuilt? No
Flight Crew Seats --
Cabin Crew Seats --
Passenger Seats --
Total number of seats on the aircraft 4
Number of Engines 1
Fixed gear or retractable gear Fixed
Aircraft, Type of Last Inspection Unknown
Date of Last Inspection --
Airframe hours since last inspection 0
Airframe Hours --
ELT Installed Yes
ELT Activated Unknown
ELT Aided Location of Event Site Unknown
ELT Type --
Aircraft Owner Name RICHARD H. & LAURIE M. KREITNE
Aircraft Owner Street Address P.O. BOX 2564
Aircraft Owner City FT. RILEY
Aircraft Owner State KS
Aircraft Owner Country
Aircraft Owner Zipcode 66442
Operator is an individual? --
Operator Name RICHARD H. & LAURIE M. KREITNE
Operator Same as Owner? Yes
Operator Is Doing Business As --
Operator Address Same as Owner? Yes
Operator Street Address P.O. BOX 2564
Operator City FT. RILEY
Operator State KS
Operator Country
Operator Zip code 66442
Operator Code
Owner has at least one certificate Yes - certificate holder
Other Operator of large aircraft? No
Certified for Part 133 or 137 Operation Unknown
Operator Certificate Number --
Indicates whether an air carrier operation was scheduled or not --
Indicates Domestic or International Flight --
Operator carrying Pax/Cargo/Mail --
Type of Flying (Per_Bus / Primary) Personal
Second Pilot on Board No
Departure Point Same as Event Yes
Departure Airport Code 35Q
Departure City ST. CHARLES
Departure State MO
Departure Country
Departure Time 0
Departure Time Zone
Destination Same as Local Flt --
Destination Airport Code
Destination City FT. RILEY
Destination State KS
Destination Country
Specific Phase of Flight Takeoff
Report sent to ICAO? --
Evacuation occurred --
Date of most recent change to record Sep 18 2002 4:50PM
User who most recently changed record dbo
Since inspection or accident --
Event Location Runway Number and Location 27
Runway Length 3500
Runway Width 50
Sight Seeing flight No
Air Medical Flight No
Medical Flight --