Big Creek Airport
Aircraft Accident/Incident Report

Big Creek, Idaho 83677
Saturday, August 4, 2007 11:00 MDT

NTSB Narrative Summary Released at Completion of Accident

The pilot landed long, overran the departure end of the runway, and veered down an embankment. The pilot reported that he landed about 1/4 of the way down the runway, and he did not apply heavy breaking until passing about midfield, but "the deceleration was not sufficient to stop before the end of the runway." About 1,100 feet of heavy breaking evidence was noted in the surface of the turf runway. The pilot reported that no mechanical malfunctions had been experienced with his airplane. The airport's elevation is 5,743 feet mean sea level, and runway 01 is 3,550 feet long. A bystander reportedly indicated that a strong wind blew in a northerly direction as the pilot approached the airport's runway 01; however, the pilot indicated that upon arriving over the airport both windsocks indicated a calm wind.

NTSB Probable Cause Narrative

The pilot's misjudgment of distance and speed, which led to a long landing, and his delayed application of brakes that resulted in long landing and a runway overrun.

Event Information

Type of Event Accident
Event Date 8/4/2007
Event Day of the Week Saturday
Time of Event 1100
Event Time Zone Mountain Daylight Time
Event City Big Creek
Event State IDAHO
Event Country --
Zipcode of the event site 83677
Event Date Year 2007
Event Date Month 8
MidAir Collision Indicator No
On Ground Collision occurred ? No
Event Location Latitude 450759N
Event Location Longitude 1151919W
Event Location Airport Big Creek
Event Location Nearest Airport ID U60
Indicates whether the acc/inc occurred off or on an airport On Airport
Distance from airport in statute miles 0
Degrees magnetic from airport --
Airport Elevation 5743
Weather Briefing Completeness --
Investigator's weather source Pilot
Time of the weather observation
Direction of event from weather observation facility (degrees) --
Weather Observation Facility ID --
Elevation of weather observation facility --
Distance of event from weather observation facility (units?) --
Time Zone of the weather observation --
Lighting Conditions Day
Lowest Ceiling Height --
Lowest Non-Ceiling Height --
Sky/Lowest/Cloud Conditions Partial Obscuration
Sky Condition for Lowest Ceiling None
Visibility Runway Visual Range (Feet) --
Visibility Runway Visual Value (Statute Miles) --
Visibility (Statute Miles) 4
Air Temperature at event time (in degrees celsius) 21
Dew Point at event time (in degress fahrenheit) --
Wind Direction (degrees magnetic) --
Variable Wind Indicator --
Wind Speed (knots) --
Wind Velocity Indicator Calm
Wind Gust Indicator Not Gusting
Wind Gust (knots) --
Altimeter Setting at event time (in. Hg) --
Density Altitude (feet) --
Intensity of Precipitation --
METAR weather report --
Event Highest Injury None
On Ground, Fatal Injuries --
On Ground, Minor Injuries --
On Ground, Serious Injuries --
Injury Total Fatal --
Injury Total Minor --
Injury Total None 1
Injury Total Serious --
Injury Total All --
Investigating Agency --
NTSB Docket Number (internal use) 22243
NTSB Notification Source FAA
NTSB Notification Date Aug 7 2007 12:00AM
NTSB Notification Time --
Fiche Number and/or location -used to find docket information DMS
Date of most recent change to record Oct 31 2007 7:09AM
User who most recently changed record NTSB\johb
Basic weather conditions Visual Meteorological Cond
FAA District Office Boise, ID

Aircraft Involved

Aircraft #1

Aircraft Registration Number N9356K
NTSB Number LAX07CA243
Missing Aircraft Indicator --
Federal Aviation Reg. Part Part 91: General Aviation
Type of Flight Plan filed None
Flight plan Was Activated? --
Damage Substantial
Aircraft Fire None
Aircraft Explosion --
Aircraft Manufacturer's Full Name Piper
Aircraft Model PA-34-200T
Aircraft Series Identifier --
Aircraft Serial Number 34-7670199
Certified Max Gross Weight --
Aircraft Category Airplane
Aircraft Registration Class --
Aircraft is a homebuilt? No
Flight Crew Seats --
Cabin Crew Seats --
Passenger Seats --
Total number of seats on the aircraft --
Number of Engines 2
Fixed gear or retractable gear Retractable
Aircraft, Type of Last Inspection --
Date of Last Inspection --
Airframe hours since last inspection --
Airframe Hours --
ELT Installed --
ELT Activated --
ELT Aided Location of Event Site --
ELT Type --
Aircraft Owner Name Richard M. Natelson
Aircraft Owner Street Address --
Aircraft Owner City --
Aircraft Owner State --
Aircraft Owner Country --
Aircraft Owner Zipcode --
Operator is an individual? No
Operator Name --
Operator Same as Owner? Yes
Operator Is Doing Business As --
Operator Address Same as Owner? No
Operator Street Address --
Operator City Salmon
Operator State ID
Operator Country USA
Operator Zip code --
Operator Code --
Owner has at least one certificate None
Other Operator of large aircraft? --
Certified for Part 133 or 137 Operation --
Operator Certificate Number --
Indicates whether an air carrier operation was scheduled or not --
Indicates Domestic or International Flight --
Operator carrying Pax/Cargo/Mail --
Type of Flying (Per_Bus / Primary) Personal
Second Pilot on Board --
Departure Point Same as Event No
Departure Airport Code SMN
Departure City Salmon
Departure State ID
Departure Country USA
Departure Time 1030
Departure Time Zone MDT
Destination Same as Local Flt crash at destination city
Destination Airport Code U60
Destination City Big Creek
Destination State ID
Destination Country USA
Specific Phase of Flight Landing - roll
Report sent to ICAO? --
Evacuation occurred --
Date of most recent change to record Sep 8 2007 2:14PM
User who most recently changed record COOS
Since inspection or accident --
Event Location Runway Number and Location 01
Runway Length 3550
Runway Width 110
Sight Seeing flight No
Air Medical Flight No
Medical Flight --