St Louis Regional Airport
Aircraft Accident/Incident Report

Alton, Illinois 62010
Friday, December 5, 2008 9:45 CST

NTSB Narrative Summary Released at Completion of Accident

The tailwheel-equipped airplane was landing with a left crosswind. While rolling out, the airplane veered to the right and the pilot attempted to correct with aileron, rudder, and then brake. The pilot stated that when left braking was applied, the airplane nosed forward and the left wingtip and propeller contacted the ground. He stated that the airplane then nosed over. The pilot reported no mechanical malfunction of the airplane.

NTSB Probable Cause Narrative

The pilot's failure to compensate for the crosswind during landing, resulting in loss of control of the aircraft and the subsequent nose-over of the airplane. Contributing to the accident was the crosswind.

Event Information

Type of Event Accident
Event Date 12/5/2008
Event Day of the Week Friday
Time of Event 945
Event Time Zone Central Standard Time
Event City Alton
Event State ILLINOIS
Event Country --
Zipcode of the event site 62010
Event Date Year 2008
Event Date Month 12
MidAir Collision Indicator No
On Ground Collision occurred ? No
Event Location Latitude 385325n
Event Location Longitude 0900246W
Event Location Airport St Louis Regional Airport
Event Location Nearest Airport ID ALN
Indicates whether the acc/inc occurred off or on an airport On Airport
Distance from airport in statute miles --
Degrees magnetic from airport --
Airport Elevation 544
Weather Briefing Completeness --
Investigator's weather source Weather Observation Facility
Time of the weather observation 948 Central Standard Time
Direction of event from weather observation facility (degrees) --
Weather Observation Facility ID ALN
Elevation of weather observation facility 544
Distance of event from weather observation facility (units?) --
Time Zone of the weather observation CST
Lighting Conditions Day
Lowest Ceiling Height --
Lowest Non-Ceiling Height 4000
Sky/Lowest/Cloud Conditions Few
Sky Condition for Lowest Ceiling None
Visibility Runway Visual Range (Feet) --
Visibility Runway Visual Value (Statute Miles) --
Visibility (Statute Miles) 10
Air Temperature at event time (in degrees celsius) -5
Dew Point at event time (in degress fahrenheit) -12
Wind Direction (degrees magnetic) 300
Variable Wind Indicator Wind direction could be determined
Wind Speed (knots) 7
Wind Velocity Indicator --
Wind Gust Indicator Gusting
Wind Gust (knots) --
Altimeter Setting at event time (in. Hg) 30.52
Density Altitude (feet) --
Intensity of Precipitation --
METAR weather report SPECI KALN 051548Z 30007KT 10SM FEW040 M05/M12 A30
Event Highest Injury None
On Ground, Fatal Injuries --
On Ground, Minor Injuries --
On Ground, Serious Injuries --
Injury Total Fatal --
Injury Total Minor --
Injury Total None 1
Injury Total Serious --
Injury Total All --
Investigating Agency NTSB
NTSB Docket Number (internal use) 24948
NTSB Notification Source FAA-STL-FSDO
NTSB Notification Date --
NTSB Notification Time --
Fiche Number and/or location -used to find docket information --
Date of most recent change to record Feb 18 2009 1:50PM
User who most recently changed record broda
Basic weather conditions Visual Meteorological Cond
FAA District Office --

Aircraft Involved

Aircraft #1

Aircraft Registration Number N185KS
NTSB Number CEN09CA081
Missing Aircraft Indicator --
Federal Aviation Reg. Part Part 91: General Aviation
Type of Flight Plan filed None
Flight plan Was Activated? --
Damage Substantial
Aircraft Fire None
Aircraft Explosion None
Aircraft Manufacturer's Full Name CESSNA
Aircraft Model A185F
Aircraft Series Identifier --
Aircraft Serial Number 18502366
Certified Max Gross Weight 3550
Aircraft Category Airplane
Aircraft Registration Class --
Aircraft is a homebuilt? No
Flight Crew Seats 2
Cabin Crew Seats --
Passenger Seats --
Total number of seats on the aircraft 4
Number of Engines 1
Fixed gear or retractable gear Fixed
Aircraft, Type of Last Inspection Annual
Date of Last Inspection Jan 20 2008 12:00AM
Airframe hours since last inspection --
Airframe Hours 3279
ELT Installed Yes
ELT Activated No
ELT Aided Location of Event Site No
ELT Type --
Aircraft Owner Name SCHNEIDER JOEL A
Aircraft Owner Street Address PO BOX 269
Aircraft Owner City CERRILLOS
Aircraft Owner State NM
Aircraft Owner Country USA
Aircraft Owner Zipcode 87010-0269
Operator is an individual? Yes
Operator Name SCHNEIDER JOEL A
Operator Same as Owner? Yes
Operator Is Doing Business As --
Operator Address Same as Owner? No
Operator Street Address --
Operator City Springfield
Operator State IL
Operator Country USA
Operator Zip code 62712
Operator Code --
Owner has at least one certificate None
Other Operator of large aircraft? No
Certified for Part 133 or 137 Operation --
Operator Certificate Number --
Indicates whether an air carrier operation was scheduled or not --
Indicates Domestic or International Flight --
Operator carrying Pax/Cargo/Mail --
Type of Flying (Per_Bus / Primary) Personal
Second Pilot on Board No
Departure Point Same as Event No
Departure Airport Code SPI
Departure City Springfield
Departure State IL
Departure Country USA
Departure Time 1000
Departure Time Zone CST
Destination Same as Local Flt crash at destination city
Destination Airport Code ALN
Destination City Alton
Destination State IL
Destination Country USA
Specific Phase of Flight --
Report sent to ICAO? --
Evacuation occurred --
Date of most recent change to record Jan 2 2009 5:05PM
User who most recently changed record brajo
Since inspection or accident Last Inspection
Event Location Runway Number and Location 29
Runway Length 8101
Runway Width --
Sight Seeing flight No
Air Medical Flight No
Medical Flight --